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In the following session, some of the topics discussed were our connection with Michael Jackson, cremation and transplants, the heavon realms, and more.....

 

Wynn: This is July 8th and this is our Wednesday night conference call with Wynn and Terry. We have a number of people listening who have checked into the call and I know there is going to be a number of people who listen to the download of the replay line. So we just greet you all and since time is non linear it doesn’t matter when you listen to this we are all together in the same moment no matter when that moment is, because in truth there is no such thing as a moment. It is only part of an illusion so we can experience this realm.

We are going to start this call by bringing in the energy, by calling in the Light.

(Wynn calls in the light)

Wynn: We have some questions and I thought that since we brought in the energy in, I’ll turn it over and just let them do a quick hello to us and this is a voice that is behind the energy that we are bringing into our bodies. Hopefully they are there, verbally.

Ra’An: We greet you in the love-light of the One Infinite Creator. We are exploring our environment here focused from the parking lot of McDonald’s in Los Angeles, California and we experience the smoke from a fire to the west. We experience the sunlight from the sun which has a different intensity today. It is an intensity that is letting through more X-ray and we recommend that if you go out into the sun, shade your eyes at this time and do some protection because the sun is giving out more intense radiation at this time.

We greet each and every one of you on this line and we are happy to be with you and touch energies with each person on the line. We as always are available for support and this is why we wish to continue the Wednesday calls and make such support available to you. We of course are available in a non-verbal manner at all times and can hear your voice whether not spoken or spoken. Your intentions rises up through the matter energy and space and time and we can pick this out. Do you have questions today?

Wynn: I have two questions I want to start with. One of them is: it is obviously easier to connect to the energies when we are on this conference call even though we are all in different locations. Could you explain why it’s so much easier when we are on the conference call. How does that look to you and why is it more expanded for us?

Ra’An: We are reminded of a situation that occurred a few months back with two individuals who had been on the conference line who were having a communication across the country from the St. Louis area to the Georgia area. As this communication occurred there was an arc and unseen arc, between the two locations as the frequencies and vibrations lightened up and cleared the space as the two people communicated with joy. So it is when we all get on the conference call and we connect and the higher the vibration the more clearing of the space between the individuals and this allows the other people on the line who can then participate to lighten up their load, and as we come into this call at the end of the day and many are bringing with them the vibration from, and the intention of unsaid communications, of frustrations, of opportunities that one has not been able to work his way through and the intention to do better on the next day or to help clear this up at some point in the future with others, or just frustration that there is a feeling of hopelessness with some that this won’t be cleared up, but this is a point to step out of that frustration and just let it go for the time being and to just connect in joy as those frustrations and stuck points are part of the physical realm and you as a universal being can have joy in participation with the group, of letting all that go and experiencing joy and stepping into joy for the time of the call. This will lift to some degree the tone.

Wynn: thank you

My next question, is that, we had a few days, in the last couple weeks where a voice came through that identified itself as Michael Jackson. With all the tens of thousands of people that are dying on this planet all the time and all the calls we do, why is it we connected with this voice who identified itself as Michael Jackson?

Ra’An: We connected with Michael Jackson for two reasons. Michael Jackson was looking for a way to express his intense hurt and sadness at being stopped from his tour. He, as a matter of expression, and we did not wish to share personal things that he would not wish to be shared, but he was looking for a way to express his intense desire to perform the appearances that he was scheduled for and he was training for the fifty performances. He found with you and your group Wynn and Terry an avenue to express his utter rage that he could not continue and his utter rage that he could not perform and he wished to make everything ok with his children so they would be proud of him. He wished to perform before the individuals and re-establish his connection with his audiences and make everything ok. He was capable of doing this tour and the reason he came in to Wynn and Terry was because the tunnel of communication was open and there was a total acceptance of his intense emotion and he was able to express them and this is something he needed to do, to express them. He wished to tell his whole audience, everyone, that had purchased tickets, everyone that followed him, that he held their energy in his space, and there were no words for his upset or frustration or sadness that he couldn’t complete the commitment and couldn’t connect with the audience. To apologize wouldn’t say it. He just only wishes to fulfill his commitment. That is why he has come into the call. Terry’s house was located near where the body was, and he could feel the energy and could begin to express himself and be heard. In other words he was expressing himself, he was putting out this feeling of extreme, extreme hurt and frustration and even rage and it was picked up by Terry and so it became on outlet for him to express himself. Does that answer your question?

Wynn: Yes. He started to write a song with me. Is he going to continue?

Ra’An: (laughing) This song, he was delighted that you wanted to write a song with him and he wished to show you how he wrote a song; his song writing techniques and he was on the conference call on Monday night with us, and we devoted one of our answers in the channeling directly to him so that he would know that the gateway to heaven was open for him, and if a person walks through the in between zone and faces the earth plane and does not move into the heaven realm, it is very hard to connect with people as they generally do not hear one when they are speaking and they do not have a body, and if one continues as a ghost it is very to be heard although the individual may speak to relatives and friends, generally they cannot be heard and it’s very frustrating for that person.

 

We showed the gateway to heaven to Michael to let him know that if he came over to the other side he would again be heard and his spirit communication and he would again have a form that he could interchange with other individuals in the heaven realm and ground himself within the heaven realm. In answer to your question about writing the song or continuing further with the song, he has outlined the song by tacking down vibrations. The reason we mentioned the Monday night call is because it impressed Michael about the gateway to heaven and he began to express his view how he would write a song, if he wished to write a song about that experience on the Monday night call. He began to tack it down with his voice. The voice of Terry is not capable of making those sounds. Michael was perplexed on how to make sounds through the sound system of Terry in that Terry’s sound system is very untrained and not at all under the kind of control. Michael has total control over his range and expression. He tacked down, and called it The Ladder to Heaven but he didn’t like that title because that title was already taken from The Stairway To Heaven but he doesn’t make it perfect at the start, he just comes up with whatever comes the closest. Tacks it down with sounds with his voice. So the beginning of the song was tacked down with sound or sounds like (makes high sound) and then a sound that went very high. Terry has no range to go that high. Then the further part of the song was tacked down, the earth realm, with some lower sounds. Anyway, he outlines the song by bringing in different sounds for different parts of the song and that leaves different parts of the song blank. Then he sets that aside and as things come to him he seeks the vibration of the experience and then he sets it to song and things will come in the blank places. We do not have an answer. This is up to Michael whether he will continue with the song writing. It is up to Michael whether he stays in your realm or comes back to visit sometimes. We do not have an answer for you, it is up to Michael.

 

Wynn: Ok. We have some questions from people and for you who have questions thanks for letting me ask that because I felt that this is a very fascinating thing we are having, and I will probably put those channelings up where he was going through writing songs and trying to have Terry make some of the sounds he makes which didn’t sound like Michael Jackson it sounded like Terry, but in any case. (Terry laughing)

 

Terry: This is Terry. I had a very hard time with it and he was very frustrated with my voice. Anyway we are going back to Ra’An now.

 

Wynn: If you have noticed that when Terry is channeling she is kind of blended so she is right there, it’s part of her. It is different than how some people channel, where they lose themselves and they just become totally the Source. Terry, as I have learned to observe this, Terry is actually in the hologram of the Source so she is part of the equation. So sometimes when you hear her talk sometimes it could be a thought from her mind or their mind so it’s almost like one mind. So here is the first question.

 

Wynn: (asking question)

 

When I took my last teaching job, with teenagers expelled from school, I got guidance through Terry’s channeling that this job was my divine duty or opportunity, recognizing, of course, my free will to take or decline the position.

 

That job is ended, my third teaching position in a year and a half. All three jobs have left me feeling that I was in the wrong place at the wrong time, even though my intentions were positive at the beginning of each of these jobs.

 

Is there guidance you can give me about the lessons that I might have learned or taught in these most challenging situations? Is there guidance of what I'm to do now?

 

Wynn: This is Wynn. It seems to me that person was going into jobs where it was a kind of a rough area of town and there were difficult students in her class and that she wanted to get through to them and probably felt like she didn’t. That’s me saying this. So could we have an answer on this please?

 

Ra’An: We greet you. Be gentle with yourself and know that you have undertaken very difficult positions that many would not many would undertake and you are coming up against those job situations of resistance to the integration into society of a number of unruly individuals. Do not be disheartened. It is through such experiences that one becomes very experienced and good at doing things. We are reminded of, although it is not the same, of the situation of the person who played chess against chess masters and probably lost every game, and the game was even lost when the master took the important pieces off the board. The individual still lost. Then came the situation where the individual was playing against somebody who was very good at playing. (We pause for a moment as the sun moves over the car and sends intense energy at this car. We are in this space and our attention is partly absorbed by this intense sunlight at this time. We continue).

 

The individual when paired with a partner that was of good ability but not a master, the individual won every game and had learned such a great deal by working under difficult circumstances. We are also reminded about other situations where the individual moves into very difficult circumstances and obtains experience and then varies this experience and is able to handle other situations where a normal person would not be able to handle them. As far as what you should do now, for one thing, take off on a hiatus and be good to yourself and love yourself. Give yourself something that will delight you and something where your attention can play and you can then refresh yourself and as you do this, keep your mind open for what you might like to do, and some easier circumstances, perhaps working with children or groups or people that you could really enjoy, instead of being always on the look-out that someone may go off you in your space or on the classmates and see a situation and explore that, where you can have some fun and a good relationship with the people you are working with. That is our answer.

 

Wynn: Ok. Next question: If that person who asked that question wants to ask a further question they can press *6 and I will just leave a moment.

 

Wynn: Ok. Next question. This is from a friend in Chicago. How do I raise my vibration to create intentions and manifestations of a constant positive faith? You have helped me raise my vibration. Is it possible to not be susceptible to negative attacks if my intention is only to interact and work with a positive source?

 

Ra’An: Thank you for your question. As you as an individual in your manifestation in your daily life are able to confront negative situations with authority without being afraid of them; but just look at them, right on, or even view them from the inside of the vibration presented to you with authority and love that maintains your own self and your own integrity those negative forces may step down, they leave, they transform into what they really wanted to say, because no one really wants to be negative. It is only through the intense desire for survival, or giving up and lashing out, or other reasons for being negative that negativity is presented in the first place. Extreme negativity really does not like itself being negative but in a effort to survive it feels that it must. So listen to these words again and see if you can get the feel of presenting yourself not with fear or rushing away, unless it is a situation you wish to totally avoid, but then do not track the vibration with your own mind. Also, if vibrations cling on to you and you, are unable to dismiss them, the it is possible it is not yours. You may be picking up other people’s thoughts; other people’s vibrations. Consensus reality’s vibrations, ancestral vibrations, vibrations found through this genetic line, and by observing them, just stepping into them observing them but with authority, not giving up your own integrity and love. Just try that and see if you can experiment with that and you may ask further questions about that. Give that a try and you can also ask us to help with situations that seem beyond your control.

 

Wynn: Thank you.

 

Last question: Many ancient traditions have held that when the animating Soul/Spirit has left the human physical body, it is wisest to leave the body intact where possible for 3 days, before disposal of the shell or corpse. Is this accurate assuming a Bardo period? Is there an ideal number of hours? I would appreciate your overview, as there are obviously times when bodies are disposed of more quickly, to avoid pestilence, morgue limits, in mass graves etc. It is a reality of physicality. And there is another question but let us ask that one first.

 

Ra’An: Thank you. That is a good idea to leave the body alone for a period of time. Three days is probably a good rule of thumb although in some cases more could be warranted. The reason for leaving the body alone is that this allows for two things. It allows for the individual to finally decide that they want to vacate the body and move into the bardo space or the higher realm or explore being out of their body without the connection to their body. Many times people have left their body and they have a thin thread connecting them to their body and although their body may not register as being alive, then they might at some time go back and try to continue their life in the body and if the body has been disturbed then they lose all chance for further connection. That is our answer to the question.

 

Wynn: I should add there. How about the idea of cremation. That was not the person’s question, but some people would choose cremation and some would choose to be buried. From a standpoint of your perspective is there a better choice?

 

Ra’An: We can give you the different scenarios that can happen with cremation and that can happen with non cremation or just burial. If a person is simply buried, there are a few things that can happen. Once the body is taken care of and they feel that they are not responsible for it anymore, particularly if there was a good funeral, then they may leave the earth plane. Sometimes however, when they are buried, they still are so tied to the body, that they may stay for years around the body which may lead them into the chance of being a ghost. If they are cremated then they may experience the pain of disconnection as the body is finally disposed of and then they do not have the opportunity to go back and inhabit it and there is less chance of them becoming a walk around ghost around a graveyard. There are some advantages to the cremation that the person can disconnect in satisfaction that that life is ended and he can move into his next incarnation or next situation.

 

Wynn: Thank you. Further question about this same topic. What impact there is (if any) when for an intended organ or tissue donation following death, transplantation surgery is performed to remove body parts?

 

Is this ‘gifting’ to the living in any way an interference or incompletion of the transference process, and does any portion of ‘individualized’ consciousness remain with transplanted tissue?

 

Ra’An: The individual, particularly if it is a heart or lung transplant, may move into the individual who has received the transplant and then you may have some character changes within that recipient individual; wherein perhaps before he didn’t like beer and suddenly he has a passion for beer. In some cases there may be memories of the other family. There may be patterns of living; patterns of staying up late that the individual; recipient may find him/her self fighting or adopting. Depending upon the body part there is a definite chance that the individual may simply stay with the body part and to them attempt to live again through the individual.

 

Wynn: So in general this would be this would be creating an impediment to the spirit moving on to the higher heaven realms?

 

Ra’An: In some cases this is an impediment, in other cases it isn’t. It depends to quite a lot on the individual.

 

Wynn: Thank you. (this is part of the same question)

 

While living and able to relay our final wishes, we are asked to indicate our wishes regarding immediate transplantation of body parts upon determination of death of the body, and more information is useful to enable our conscious and considered personal choice.

 

That is not actually a question but a comment. The person was interested in understanding the benefits of willing body parts or allowing those who are in bad shape to get body parts and there is a potential side effect of that as you said. Is there any further comment on that?

 

Ra’An: Yes. If an individual is donating body parts for instance, to choose to be implanted, non major body parts, then there is less of a tendency of the individual who has donated parts to hang around. If an individual wishes to consider whether he is going to donate or not, as part of this possibility that he is going to stick around and attempt to inhabit the same body as another party, then we would suggest they did not donate parts. It depends to, upon the strength of will of the individual, whether he is willing, after the body has died, or thinks he may be willing to simply part and move into the heaven realm so that he could re-establish himself and in some cases if he wished to recycle himself back in as a reincarnated person on the earth plane. And so there are difficulties with attempting to inhabit the same body as another individual. If someone thinks that they might get stuck into that situation we recommend that they don’t donate unless they could specifically donate small parts, not major parts like heart or lung transplants. Kidney transplants probably would not get one into such a situation so if one could designate, then that would be helpful. But to attempt to inhabit the same body as another individual can lead to multiple personalities after more than one incarnation and would be a problem one would want to avoid.

 

Wynn: How about an eye transplant for example?

 

Ra’An: This probably would not be that disruptive.

 

Wynn: Thank you.

 

A question that I’m going to add to this is, you were talking about Michael Jackson and talked about the heaven realms. There have been times I have read that the heaven realms are actually a lower state of in-between in a soul’s progress and that there are realms far higher and expansive than the heaven’s realms. Is there any truth to that? Do I understand it correctly?

 

Ra’An: Yes you do. You understand it correctly. There are realms beyond the heaven realms. There are realms upon realms where one may move up to a higher realm and work in mathematics, with the Elohim, work with body models, the focusing mechanism models for species. There are other realms, there are teaching realms where people dress more in white, and one may, as they become more advanced, may then come and speak with the masters and be trained but there are other reams besides the heaven realms.

Wynn: In the heaven realms is that the realm where people would meet the energies of those they have connected with. Are the heaven realms still connected with the energies of earth?

Ra’An: There are sections of the heaven realm that are connected with the earth realm in that individuals may move over into the heaven realms and experience their friends and relatives who have crossed over and may get together in groups and work in various jobs with people who have crossed over. For other planets, they would have a different heaven realm but the principle would be the same.