Brian Wilson asked Speaker Cameron Sexton initially about the
concerns that some Tennesseans and GOP supporters are raising that the
Governor’s Bill (HB786) is not “true constitutional carry” because it
excludes all firearms except for handguns. In response, Speaker Sexton
stated that in Tennessee currently you can carry a firearm “just not
loaded” (see Endnote #1) but then he stated that the Governor’s Bill
only addresses handguns. He stated that he thinks the Governor’s bill
is the most likely to move forward because it is “funded” referencing
the likely inclusion of the almost $20 million projected annual cost of
the Governor’s bill in the Governor’s proposed budget.
When
discussing the handgun only limit in the Governor’s bill, Speaker Sexton
described the Governor’s bill as “one good step in getting us towards
true constitutional carry”. He also said that “this is the first step
to get permitless carry in the state of Tennessee.” He also stated
that “this is a great first step and we have been trying to get this
step now for over a decade.
When asked by Brian Wilson about
whether there was support for making it a firearms law instead of a
handgun only law, Speaker Sexton stated he did not think that there was
enough support in the Legislature at this time to do that. Keep in mind
that Speaker Sexton is the leader of the Republican caucus in the House
and it holds a significant super majority in the House. If there are
not enough votes it is because a significant number of House Republicans
are unwilling to support REAL constitutional carry.
These
statements by Speaker Sexton are clear indications, similar to the
statements previously noted by Senator Mike Bell and Senator Kerry
Roberts during the Senate Judiciary hearings, that the Governor’s bill
is not true or real constitutional carry but that it is only an
incremental step in that direction. Of course, the indication is it is
“constitutional carry” to the extent that constitutional carry only
means for them that a limited number of citizens can carry only
handguns.
Brian Wilson also asked if the problem in passing real
constitutional carry was with the Lt. Governor, Randy McNally.
Speaker Sexton said “I think there is
more blockage than just the Lt. Governor”
which suggests that other reports from internal sources which are
indicating that Lt. Governor Randy McNally is the main roadblock on
passage of this legislation may be accurate.
This
interview underscores that there are perhaps many legislators in the Republican
super majority who do not fully support the idea that anyone who can
legally own a firearm has the right to carry that firearm just as the
Second Amendment provides. Instead, they prefer to retain infringements
such as age restrictions and restrictions on the types of arms to push
legislation that can more accurately be described as “partial permitless
carry”.
One must wonder why, as Speaker Sexton has stated, the
effort to enact real constitutional carry has been a battle taking
place now for the entire decade that the Republicans have held as a
party a super majority in the Legislature. Clearly, one answer is that
there are several if not many who identify as Republicans and who likely
campaign as 2nd Amendment supporters that otherwise believe that there
is a huge “but” at the end of the Second Amendment.
Other than
apparently Lt. Governor Randy McNally, who are these other legislators
that Speaker Cameron Sexton references and has apparently talked with
yet who remain unnamed? Other than Legislators, are there others such as state agencies, the
Tennessee Sheriffs' Association, the Tennessee Chiefs of Police or even
others who are influencing legislators to block real constitutional
carry? We should be calling and writing Speaker Sexton
to find out who these other legislators are (and perhaps even the
governor) so that their constituents can be fully informed and can
contact their legislators to express their beliefs and desires and, if
not successful, perhaps even primary them out of office.
If you
want to see real constitutional carry this year and not just some
partial or incremental version of permitless carry being “identified” as
constitutional carry, then it is important that you
1) In Tennessee an “unloaded” firearm is defined in Tenn. Code
Annotated Section 39-17-1301(17) as follows: ” “Unloaded” means the
rifle, shotgun or handgun does not have ammunition in the chamber,
cylinder, clip or magazine, and no clip or magazine is in the immediate vicinity of the weapon.”
(emphasis added) Thus, if a person has a firearm with no ammunition
in it but there is ammunition on the person or in the vicinity of the
firearm it is by definition not an “unloaded” firearm.