On a recent episode of the podcast, digital executive Janet Sherlock explored how to design winning technology careers and organizations, sharing lessons from her career journey, her doctoral research, and her experience as an adviser to leaders seeking to create efficient, growth-driven organizations.

After the episode wrapped, we spent more time discussing her doctoral studies in organizational change and leadership, the pitfalls leaders face when it comes to organizational design, and why leaders need to prioritize this “forgotten art and science.” Read that bonus Q&A for Janet’s tips on how to design and optimize the IT organization of the future.